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09-22-201309:51 AM #1
Senior Member Iii Rings
19" vs 20" wheels on a 2014 Audi S4
New guy here. I'm in the market for upgrading my OEM 19" rims for some aftermarket alternatives. It'due south been suggested to me that xx" wheels would await best for my car ('14 Audi S4) with the addition of some H&R OE Sport Springs. Going for the bigger wheels would mean getting new tires equally well and increment the cost, whereas I was initially thinking of just swapping the rims and retaining the tires that I currently have. I would be willing to go bigger with the upgraded springs if I can really justify it.
So I come to you folks in hopes that you lot could help weigh in the pros and cons of having the nineteen" versus xx" wheels. In particular, I would like to consider factors such as the following:
- Turning radius impact
- Ride quality
- Immovability
- Noise level (due to tire modify?)These are the only considerations I could recall of at the moment. I'm non very experienced in Audi cars, their break system and wheels in general, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers in advance.
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09-22-201311:42 AM #2
Veteran Fellow member Four Rings
19'southward should be better in every aspect except for subjective looks. 20's look a little nicer to me, some hate the look. I've been going back and forth myself. Can't decide.
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09-22-201312:22 PM #3
Senior Member 3 Rings
Originally Posted by will13k7
Go for the springs first. Closing the gap will make the 19" look bigger.
Besides, the offset of the OEM wheel is non very aggressive for a 8.5"Something closer to the fender will likewise create that illusion.
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09-22-201303:01 PM #four
Senior Member Three Rings
Originally Posted by will13k7
I would imagine that the 20" wheels and H&R OE Sport Springs would brand the gap a lot smaller compared to putting 19" wheels with the aforementioned springs. What I don't desire to happen is have the machine too low to the ground that I would have to always be careful driving over speed bumps or dips by going really tedious or sideways. I would dear lower the car but non to the bespeak where the car is "slammed" that I would e'er have to be conscious of not scrapping the bottom of my front bumper.
Does anyone accept a picture of their automobile or someone else's car with H&R OE Sport Springs and either 19" or xx" wheels? I'd like to compare the two.
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09-22-201303:07 PM #five
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Originally Posted by typer100
I am including the H&R OE Sport Springs no matter what the size of the wheels. But the departure in costs between the 20" and xix" is pretty meaning, specially when you consider the twenty" rims would too require me to get new tires with the appropriate size. I'm non necessarily going for topnotch performance at the wheels. This is primarily for looks without compromising drivability and comfort.
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09-22-201303:34 PM #six
Veteran Member Three Rings
stock peelers on H&R OE sports, w/ spacers 10mm rear 5mm front.
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09-22-201303:40 PM #vii
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I prefer xx's....merely think information technology fits the car better. Plus, I never understood the logic of getting aftermarket wheels that are the same size every bit your stock ones.
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09-22-201303:42 PM #8
Senior Member Three Rings
Originally Posted by chrisbryan89
Thanks Chris. This is perfect. I currently take these aforementioned rims only I'm looking into getting aftermarket wheels, and thus my current struggle choosing between the 19" and twenty" variations. How would you compare the ride quality over stock afterward you've had the springs installed? Any adverse event on the little comfort that we have with the OEM sport tuned suspension? I read in another thread these springs actually (and surprisingly) improved the ride comfort level? Could you validate this merits? Your insight would assistance tremendously.
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09-22-201303:45 PM #nine
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I personally feel like it did ameliorate the ride quality, null spectacular simply noticeable to me. Steering and plough in is a fleck sharper also. I don't track my car so I wanted to salve money on coils and maintain a somewhat factory ride and these are the perfect solution for that. I'm looking to get some hartman 20" RS6 (peeler) replicas to throw on, but volition probably await a scrap equally I am satisfied with these for now
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09-22-201303:47 PM #10
Senior Member Three Rings
Originally Posted past S4morris
Actually the stock ones were 18" but the dealer upgraded my car with the nineteen" wheels like in chrisbryan89'due south photo higher up. Aye, they're all the same stock, only don't the twenty" wheels but give yous one-half an inch closure with the gap? I'm trying to avert having the automobile too low to the footing.
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09-22-201303:51 PM #eleven
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Here's my car on 20x9" wheels and dropped with the H&R OE Sport:
Here's my motorcar with the nineteen" mill wheels:
No spacers however, so this gives an idea of what information technology looks like direct from getting the springs installed. The pic with the OE wheels is likewise before the springs really had a hazard to settle in as well.
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09-22-201303:53 PM #12
Veteran Fellow member Three Rings
How much did that H&R'southward drop you lot? Looks like factory height with the 20's. Beloved those CV5'due south though, they look fantastic!
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09-22-201303:58 PM #13
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The OE's dropped it a impact over an inch. Nothing likewise extreme, but I love the await. To requite yous a reference, I can simply get my finger between the pinnacle of the tire and the lesser of the fender in the front with the car as dropped. Thanks for the CV5 dear. They're one of my absolute favorite wheels on an S4.
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09-22-201304:07 PM #14
Senior Member Three Rings
Originally Posted by MarcWinkman
How would you compare driving the quondam 19" with the new 20" wheels? Are yous inhibited in some cases with the bigger wheels? The clearance with respect to the fender gap may have been reduced, but is the car too lower to the basis? Whatsoever impact on your turning radius?
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09-22-201304:xiii PM #15
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Originally Posted by MarcWinkman
should throw some spacers on in that location to affluent it out a chip man. Would expect killer. Now you accept me considering CV5'due south
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09-22-201304:28 PM #16
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Originally Posted past chrisbryan89
Spacers are on the list of things to add, only that'll exist in the circular of mods side by side spring which will probably also include GIAC Stage 2 software and a pulley.
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09-22-201306:25 PM #17
Veteran Member 4 Rings
oe xix'southward with h&r oe sports
stick with 19's, ride quality is better, tires are cheaper, wheels are lighter (meliorate performance)
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09-22-201307:00 PM #18
Senior Member Iii Rings
Originally Posted by S4morris
1) No need to purchase new tires.
2) aesthetically more highly-seasoned to the owner.
3) lighter
4) stronger
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09-22-201307:05 PM #19
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Originally Posted by saxon
Nice! Cheers for sharing. Y'all brought up an important bespeak in functioning. I hadn't considered that. This may be the route that I would become with. Follow-up question: would you upgrade to a height-adaptable coilover kit or would that diminish the ride quality you become with H&R OE Sport Springs?
BTW, pretty sick Caractere torso kit. I'grand considering their 19" CW1 wheels.
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09-22-201307:25 PM #20
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In my stance, coilovers are overkill for street use. If you rail your car often then for sure, simply if you want to maintain a nice ride skip the coils
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09-22-201307:49 PM #21
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Originally Posted past AudiS4TW
Driving on the 20" wheels is really pretty close to the 19" wheels in my stance. I don't find that I'grand inhibited by the larger wheels, and the turning radius doesn't seem to have been affected much if at all. The entire car does sit a footling lower to the basis, but nil outrageous equally if I were bagged. I honestly think that the pull a fast one on to the 20" wheel is getting a good tire that strikes a squeamish remainder between performance and ride comfort (and information technology tin can be done) and getting the tire pressures dialed in just correct. If you can do all that, then at that place's no consequence whatsoever. The merely thing I find is I'm hypersensitive to potholes and curbs more then now than I was with the 19" peelers on there. Only other divergence I've noticed is that my speedometer reads a couple miles an hour faster than what I'm actually doing, just no bigs there.
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09-22-201308:05 PM #22
Veteran Member Four Rings
Originally Posted by AudiS4TW
It depends on your upkeep. I think for the price and a minor drop the oe sports tin't exist beat.
If coin is no object a nice fix of coilovers will ride improve than stock and offer more performance when adapted on the track
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09-22-201308:41 PM #23
Established Member 3 Rings
OP, I just realized that yous are in San Diego, the roads are Butter Smooth at that place, I wouldnt hesitate to put 20s on at all !
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09-23-2013ten:39 AM #24
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OP looks like your in california. where the weather and route conditions are perfect (allow everybody on the east declension tell information technology).
20's is not for everybody, merely i say xx's. Ride quality is fine, tire noise is fine(really depends on what brand u get with), Durabilty is fine if your smart. Its actually not that big of a deal. Personally with the wait i accept right at present, i could never run 19s. Merely.........
To me.....
You have to run lower on 20's for it to look good. This might freak out some people. If your looking at OE or Sport H/R, i recollect nineteen's with some meet on the tires is perfect. Super sports or coil-overs are a neat philharmonic with the xx's. I speak from feel. Just my 2cents.Previous: 2007 A4, 2012 B8 S4 Bril Crimson, 2015 S4 Sepang Blue
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09-23-201311:50 AM #25
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Originally Posted by AudiS4TW
20 will have a more harsh ride with better chance of dissentious a bike. I wouldnt become xx.
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09-23-201312:13 PM #26
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Originally Posted past Wilbur
He'south in Cali, the roads are basically PERFECT in that location with no potholes. your in Canada where the roads are a night and day divergence when compared to San Diego Roads. Its not like OP is jumping from 17s to 20s, that would be a big departure in ride quality. Its not a fair comparison if yous are riding on $250 19 inch size tires and then ride on $165 20 inch size tires and say the ride is alot harsher and noisier, or more prone to bubbles from potholes. You really get what yous pay for, 20inch Nankang or Wanli tires are definitely not going to compare to 19 Conti's or Michelins. Im just saying
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09-23-201312:17 PM #27
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Originally Posted past Pworld
Im running 255 35 20 on my S4, if you lot opt to run chunkier tires, it really cushions the car meliorate and the gap is actually lessened! only downfall is the speedometer will exist a tad off, which doesnt bother me at all. My car is stock superlative in this picture, I volition exist putting on H&R oe sport in about a week.
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09-23-201312:25 PM #28
Veteran Member Four Rings
Originally Posted by chrisbryan89
Actually not sure if you had coilovers but a quality fix of coilovers like the Bilstein PSS9/PSS10 will ride and perform way improve than whatsoever shock/leap combo. Before you ask I have tried Koni shocks with H&R and Eibach and neither have come fifty-fifty close to the Bilsteins Coilovers.
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09-23-201312:29 PM #29
Veteran Member Four Rings
20'south in my opinion look way too big for this car, maybe on an A8 but not on A4/S4. The xx's doesn't remainder out the machine makes is just look like you stole rims from another car, that is just my opinion.
Likewise 20's give harsher ride and lessens operation due to the extra weight. It may experience more responsive but overall you lose functioning. Look at race cars and they usually don't employ large rims.
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09-23-201301:37 PM #30
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Believe it or not, not all the roads in California are paved with gilded and shine as silk! SD has some pretty messed upwards roads, just like any other major city. That beingness said, California roads tend to be better than those on the East declension, where it can look like the surface of the moon in some areas.
20s in SoCal are definitely doable. If you're concerned with ride quality a bit more, 19s are a good choice. If you lot're more concerned with how they will look, 20s are going to fill up the wheel wells a bit more.
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09-23-201301:53 PM #31
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Similar most of these type questions, it's all subjective... I went a piddling overboard on my previous vehicle and had very low profile 19'south with H&R Supersport springs (GTI). Looked cool, but the ride was harsh to say the to the lowest degree. This fourth dimension around, I decided to err on the side of not destroying ride quality anymore than necessary to nevertheless get some drop and a bit more than aggressive appearance. The OE's do a nice job, and by going 9.v" wide wheels the stance is much better than stock. Would love it to exist a hair lower, but the trade off but isn't worth it to me. For a daily driver, it's hard to beat the combination.
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09-23-201304:25 PM #32
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Originally Posted by chrisbryan89
CV5's are fucking sexy. Damn. I'thousand trying to resist getting rims. CV5's are not helping!
Originally Posted past Pworld
Do you lot really need to lower your car more when moving from 19's to 20's to keep the same bike well gap? With my stock 19's and tires I have a 1 finger gap, no rubbing or scraping so far, except in one case when I didn't deadening down enough for a small speed bump.
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09-23-201305:20 PM #33
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Originally Posted by will13k7
Really you do not, that comes downward to my personal opinion. Its not so much the bicycle gap, its the fact 20's raise the motorcar up, making them wait "also big". when u lower the car back downwards, it tin can have a overnice little affect. A lot of people who dont know our cars think im on nineteen's and when i tell them im on 20's they compliment how it looks, equally if they are surprised. With that said, at that place are many dissimilar ways to get about making our cars look even improve. Its all near how you attack it.
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09-23-201305:45 PM #34
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looks are subjective
performance would say xviii's, peradventure 19's to fit brakes and no way 20's
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09-23-201305:55 PM #35
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20" Vossens dropped on HR Supersport. I love it
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09-23-201309:34 PM #36
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If you accept 255/35/19 and supervene upon them with 255/30/20 so the height divergence of the car will be barely anything with the same model tyres.
Lower it to the peak you lot want and then make a conclusion. 20s volition look better and ride won't exist besides much different, if you were going to the track you'd be better off with 19s.Don't run spacers, only get the right offset on the rim you lot purchase!
If you put an adjustable coilover kit on the car you lot volition be able to manually adjust everything from tiptop to dampening etc. This volition mean you have full control over the regardless of tyre/rim option.
A expert thought for those who don't have Audi drive select. If you do accept that simply get the KW kit that works with the ADS.
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09-23-201311:02 PM #37
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Met up with another S4 owner this weekend. Virtually identical setups with the exception of wheels, he was running 20'due south. Approximately the same mileage, and he was on his way to Mr. Wheel repair guy to go pot hole inflicted dents stock-still on 3 of them. I'll stick with my 19's, thanks.
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09-23-201311:31 PM #38
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Isn't that more than to practise once again with the get-go/tyre selection? Ie how far the wheel sticks out from the rim..
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09-24-201308:40 AM #39
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Originally Posted past Pworld
20 does NOT modify ride height. Sidewall is smaller than 19 to compensate. Ride top, wheel/fender gap and overall diameter do not modify.
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09-24-201308:41 AM #40
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Originally Posted by Pworld
Sometimes its the pattern of the bike that throws off the look. Im guessing you are running 20s that has a lip. My offset set of wheels were the 20 inch oem replica of the 19inch titanium five spoke rims. They made my car look similar a frog, I replaced the rims with my current gear up up that has a lip in it, Car doesnt have that "bullfrog" look to it anymore. Well-nigh guys here running 19s are a full face rim, effort running 19s with a lip, they'll look similar 17s.
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